{"id":4667,"date":"2022-08-18T20:35:39","date_gmt":"2022-08-18T20:35:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nau.edu\/boundless\/?p=4667"},"modified":"2023-04-24T14:46:10","modified_gmt":"2023-04-24T14:46:10","slug":"forensics-debate-team","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/stories\/forensics-debate-team\/","title":{"rendered":"Why join NAU&#8217;s forensics and debate team?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"is-style-leadIn\">Public speaking can be scary. For NAU\u2019s Forensics and Debate director <a href=\"https:\/\/directory.nau.edu\/?person=smw664\">Sarah Walker<\/a>, that\u2019s exactly why students should join the team.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Walker says being part of the team will teach you two things: first, you discover techniques to decrease pressure and fear; second, you learn how to organize thoughts into structured arguments. \u201cEverybody has lots of really good ideas, but we sometimes struggle to organize those ideas into actions,\u201d she says. \u201cAnd when you get into a public speaking program, like the forensics team here, you have to learn how to organize your ideas so you don&#8217;t just ramble at somebody for ten minutes.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large um-custom-left-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4553_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Professor Sarah Walker socializing during Regents' Cup reception.\" class=\"wp-image-4694\" srcset=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4553_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4553_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4553_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4553_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4553_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-800x534.jpg 800w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4553_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Professor Sarah Walker socializing during Regents&#8217; Cup reception.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Walker is NAU\u2019s fifth team coach and started during the pandemic. \u201cI was left a lot of really, really good resources by the previous coaches. It&#8217;s been a year of getting my feet underneath me, getting things maintained, and moving into sort of a growing year,\u201d she says. \u201cWe had a pretty good year.\u201d Despite shutdowns due to the pandemic, the team attended six tournaments\u2014two in person and four online.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"communicating-with-confidence\">Communicating with confidence<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Interest in participation is not limited to one major. \u201cOne of our seniors was a construction management major this year,\u201d Walker says. \u201cHe&#8217;s graduated and super excited to use his public speaking skills to convince people to build bridges. It&#8217;s one of the things that I love about programs like this\u2014no matter what you do with your life, whether you want to be a farmer or a politician or a doctor, you have to talk to people to accomplish things.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hunter Larson, a <a href=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/pia\/bs-political-science\/\">Political Science<\/a> major with a minor in <a href=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/criminology-and-criminal-justice\/criminology-and-criminal-justice-minor\/\">Criminology and Criminal Justice<\/a>, calls joining the team a \u201chappy accident.\u201d He joined via Walker\u2019s speech and debate practicum. \u201cIt&#8217;s just one of those \u2018accidents\u2019 where I showed up and had no idea what I was getting myself into, and it&#8217;s worked out to be probably one of the best experiences I&#8217;ve had at NAU so far,\u201d said Larson.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The team meets on Tuesdays to practice, research, and get comfortable speaking on different issues. And slowly, they gain self-confidence. \u201cOften, the fear of public speaking comes from this belief that I don&#8217;t have anything important to say and people will know that,\u201d Walker says. \u201cIt&#8217;s not true, but our brains are very good at convincing us that it is. And so self-confidence is one of those sneaky things you gain as you master the skill set because the first time you stand up, open your mouth, and don&#8217;t pass out, everybody wins. And, once you&#8217;re past that first time, you&#8217;ve got a moment to say, \u2018I&#8217;ve done this once before, and I can do it again.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Larson shared that his challenge was confidence, especially when working on impromptu speeches. \u201cI was stressing out while trying to come up with stuff. I&#8217;d start hyperventilating a lot of the time before I&#8217;d even go in,\u201d Larson says. \u201cIt got progressively better and then I got to my second semester, where it just clicked. The struggle for me was gaining the confidence in myself to realize that I can do things differently than how somebody else will do it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Larson\u2019s goal is to be a lawyer. \u201cDebate has taught me how to think on my feet a lot faster and get better at public speaking, which I know will help me in the future when I&#8217;m in a courtroom,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Like Larson, Abigail Brown, a <a href=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/criminology-and-criminal-justice\/bs-criminology-and-criminal-justice\/\">Criminology and Criminal Justice<\/a> major with a minor in <a href=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/criminology-and-criminal-justice\/law-rights-justice-minor\/\">Law, Rights, and Justice<\/a>, is working towards becoming a lawyer. Ultimately, she would like to work in corporate healthcare law. Her professors recognized the passion Brown brought to her written work and recommended she join debate. And she is glad she did\u2014it has helped her organize her thoughts. \u201cI learned how to tone my voice and calm down,\u201d Brown says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 id=\"networking-with-arizona-leaders\">Networking with Arizona leaders<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Both Brown and Larson applied for and were accepted to the NAU <a href=\"https:\/\/www.azregents.edu\/regents-cup\">Regents\u2019 Cup<\/a> team. The Cup is an annual speech and debate event sponsored by the Arizona Board of Regents. \u201cIt\u2019s scary at first because I&#8217;m one of fifteen students representing my school,\u201d Larson says. \u201cBut you&#8217;re never put in a situation where it&#8217;s not positive, which is the best part about it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image um-custom-left-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4797_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Hunter Larson speaks during Regents' Cup kick-off event.\" class=\"wp-image-4693\" srcset=\"https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4797_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4797_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4797_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4797_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4797_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429-800x534.jpg 800w, https:\/\/legacy.nau.edu\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/179\/2022\/08\/4797_regents_cup_kick_off_20220429.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Hunter Larson speaks during Regents&#8217; Cup kick-off event.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The NAU team competed against the University of Arizona and Arizona State University teams in Oxford-style debates and storytelling. The teams received the subject in January, so they had four months to prepare. Brown competed in storytelling. \u201cWe were practicing every week up to the Regents\u2019 Cup, so it was challenging to find the balance between, \u2018hey, you need to go rest,\u2019 or \u2018hey, you need to study for this,\u2019\u201d Brown says. \u201cDid I win? No. But I felt like I won. I won with the opportunity.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Students met with leaders from across the state at the opening and closing receptions. \u201cMy friend and I met a couple of very prestigious lawyers in Arizona who gave us little helpful hints and tricks. Everybody wanted to help us, which was this really cool experience,\u201d Larson says. \u201cI&#8217;ve been lucky enough where I&#8217;ve been able to still communicate with some of these individuals. I&#8217;ve had a couple of them offer to help me study for my LSAT.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The team also met with NAU President Cruz Rivera. \u201cWhen he pulled us in the room before the awards, I said to him, \u2018Thank you,\u2019\u201d Brown says. \u201cThank you for making this important too, and not just football. I was like, \u2018Thank you for making words matter.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>Join <span class=\"cust-emph\">the fun<\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Walker is proud of all of her students. \u201cThey&#8217;re very, very clever. I think our students are top-notch, if I were to brag a little bit on them.\u201d She adds, \u201cIt&#8217;s so cool to watch them go from \u2018I have very little knowledge about this,\u2019 to \u2018I could comfortably discuss this topic with a layperson on the street.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And for future potential members, she has this message: \u201cDon&#8217;t let big words like forensics or Oxford-style freak you out too much. We&#8217;ll teach you everything you need to know over here. We&#8217;re having a lot of fun.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Practice is held on Tuesdays, 6:30 \u2013 9 p.m. in room 320 of the Communications building (16). Contact <a href=\"https:\/\/directory.nau.edu\/?person=smw664\">Sarah Walker<\/a> if you have any questions.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\t<div class=\"nau-block nau-block-story_breakout_box\">\n\t<article class=\"content-wrapper color-scheme-grey-background\">\n\t\t\t<h2>Debate and forensics\u2014the basics<\/h2>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"breakout-col\">\n\t\t<h3 id=\"wait-just-what-is-forensics\">Wait, just what is forensics?<\/h3>\n<p>With the popularity of crime scene shows featuring forensic investigations, it&#8217;s easy to be confused when you hear the term &#8220;forensics&#8221; in another context. The two fields are indeed connected; one of <em>Merriam-Webster&#8217;s<\/em> definitions of forensics is &#8220;the application of scientific principles and techniques to matters of criminal justice.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>However, \u201cforensics was a speech term first and a criminal justice term second,\u201d explains director Sarah Walker. The practice started with ancient Greek philosophers discussing different speech formats, including ceremonial presentations and eulogies. Our English word \u201cforensics\u201d comes from the Latin <em>forum<\/em> (an outdoor assembly space) and <em>forensis<\/em> (in open court; public). As Western language and legal systems progressed, \u201cthe forensic part came to refer to the kind of speaking you would do in a courtroom to determine someone&#8217;s guilt or innocence,\u201d says Walker. \u201cSo it got tied up in the legal system as well as the speech system.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 id=\"so-are-debate-and-forensics-the-same-not-exactly.\">So, are debate and forensics the same? Not exactly.<\/h3>\n<p>\u201cIn forensics, nobody&#8217;s there to stand up in the middle of your speech and go, \u2018you had a wrong fact,\u2019\u201d Walker says. \u201cBut in debate, they certainly can. And then you have that discussion.\u201d NAU\u2019s team members participate in both forensics and debate events.<\/p>\n<p>NAU debate events:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p>British parliamentary debate \u2013 students have 20 minutes to prepare their arguments<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Lincoln-Douglas debate \u2013 students debate on a topic set at the beginning of the year<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\t<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"breakout-col\">\n\t\t<p>NAU forensics public speaking events, as Walker describes, include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p>Platform speaking \u2013 what we think of as public speaking; e.g., informative and persuasive speeches<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>After-dinner speaking \u2013 a funny informative or persuasive speech<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Limited event or limited preparation categories; e.g., extemporaneous and impromptu speaking\u2014you get a limited amount of time to create a speech on a provided prompt<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Interpretive categories \u2013 similar to storytelling, you express your thoughts and experiences through prose, drama, or poetry; oral interpretation is a mixture of these three<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>Duo \u2013 allows you to participate with a partner<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 id=\"regents-cup\">Regents\u2019 Cup<\/h3>\n<p>Overseen by the Arizona Board of Regents, \u201cthe Regents\u2019 Cup is essentially a state tournament for speech and debate. It&#8217;s not run by any associations that directly oversee a lot of debate and speech competitions,\u201d says Walker.<\/p>\n<p>Students compete in two formats: Oxford-style debate and storytelling. In an Oxford-style debate, one side argues for a statement and the other against. In storytelling, participants write and perform a personal narrative to illustrate their point of view. 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